The Human CEO Podcast

Welcome to The Human CEO — the podcast about building organisations that work, on purpose. Culture happens either way. Culture architecture makes it intentional. To us, culture isn't one thing, it's built from seven interlocking architectures: Leadership, Talent, Capability, Communication, Reward, Performance and Experience. When you get these right you get sustainable behaviour: people who make strong decisions without being told to, over and over, without you in the room. Get them wrong, and no amount of values-on-the-wall will fix it. Each episode, we talk to CEOs and business leaders about how they've actually built their organisational culture: the decisions, trade-offs and systems behind teams that perform consistently, not just occasionally. These are working conversations for people building something real, not theory for people who like talking about culture. Subscribe for insight into how the best leaders architect performance, one system at a time.

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Mar 4, 2025

49 min

Episode Summary
In this conversation, Amy interviews Penny McCormick, CEO of MyHealthChecked. Penny shares her journey from marketing to leading a healthcare PLC, navigating through the COVID-19 pandemic, and her philosophy on leadership, change management, and personal health empowerment.
About My Health Check
Founded in November 2019, MyHealthChecked is a PLC headquartered in Cardiff that delivers at-home wellness tests to consumers primarily through retail partnerships. The company started with COVID PCR testing (becoming the first over-the-counter COVID PCR test available in Boots) and has since expanded to offer over 30 different tests ranging from lateral flow wellness tests to DNA and blood tests. With a small executive team of nine members and a strong, diverse board, MyHealthChecked has successfully navigated significant market changes.
Leadership During COVID-19
Penny describes the whirlwind of leading during the pandemic, when she had to:
Completely pivot the business direction from female health to broader wellness testing
Build a supply chain and operational infrastructure at breakneck speed
Manage remote working while still enabling critical in-person collaboration
Handle unprecedented customer service demands during travel testing surges
She emphasizes the importance of embracing ambiguity, making decisions with limited information, and maintaining open communication with the team when everything is being done "for the first time."
On Leadership Philosophy
Penny's leadership approach centers on:
Creating psychological safety for team members to ask questions and challenge ideas
Understanding that resistance to change isn't binary—people process change differently
Looking beyond the questions being asked to understand the underlying concerns
Empowering teams while maintaining clear direction
Learning continuously and improving through self-reflection
Career Journey
Rather than following a predetermined career path, Penny describes making intentional decisions at key moments that led to her current role. Starting in journalism and PR, she moved into marketing where she discovered her passion for the commercial side of business. Her time at BBI International (now BBI Group) was formative, where she worked with entrepreneurial leaders who instilled a commercial mindset and eventually rose to become a managing director.
Mentors and Influences
Penny credits several key influences:
Previous leaders who demonstrated transparent communication and empowerment
Amber Rudigal (board member and creator of Pregnancy Plus app), who demonstrated lean business operations, creative problem-solving, and generosity in supporting others, particularly women
Recommended Reading
While cautioning against putting too much pressure on oneself from leadership books, Penny highly recommends "The Chimp Paradox" by Steve Peters as a simple, accessible framework for understanding behavior and managing anxiety, especially useful in helping team members during uncertain times.
The Future of Healthcare
Penny sees healthcare evolving toward:
More accessible services outside traditional healthcare settings
Greater consumer choice and autonomy in health management
Initiatives like Pharmacy First that distribute healthcare delivery
Retail partnerships leveraging trust and accessibility (noting that 80% of UK residents live within 10 minutes of a Boots store)
Personal Philosophy on Health
Penny emphasizes:
Making intentional choices every day for long-term independence and quality of life
Prevention rather than reaction to health issues
Living fully while maintaining independence for as long as possible
The Human CEO Podcast explores leadership journeys and philosophies of remarkable executives across industries.

Mar 4, 2025

49 min

Feb 13, 2025

1 hr 14 min

Episode Overview
In this episode of The Human CEO, we welcome back Amy Burdett, Head of People and Culture at Premier Education Group. Amy shares the remarkable journey of transforming workplace culture, embedding meaningful values, and achieving award-winning recognition. From strategic culture changes to balancing productivity with well-being, this episode is packed with insights for leaders looking to build an authentic and high-performing workplace.
Key Topics Discussed
✔️ The Evolution of Culture – How Premier Education reassessed and redefined its core values to reflect who they are today.✔️ Creating a Culture Code – The importance of listening to employees and capturing what truly makes a workplace thrive.✔️ The Power of ‘Lagom’ – How a Swedish philosophy transformed productivity, work-life balance, and employee engagement.✔️ Scaling Culture in a Franchise Model – The challenges and successes of aligning culture across 80+ franchise businesses.✔️ The Role of Psychological Safety – How open and honest conversations shaped a culture where employees feel heard and valued.✔️ Recognition & Impact – The awards, achievements, and business growth that followed their cultural transformation.✔️ Future Ambitions – What's next for Premier Education, including AI integration and continued growth.
Standout Moments
🎙️ “Culture isn’t just words on a wall—it has to be embedded in everything you do.”🎙️ “We went from knowing we were doing great things to actually celebrating and communicating them.”🎙️ “People work better when they understand their role in the bigger picture. That’s where transparency is key.”
Why You Should Listen
If you’re a leader, HR professional, or business owner looking to create a workplace culture that drives engagement, retention, and business success, this episode is for you. Amy’s insights show that cultural transformation is not just possible but necessary for long-term growth.
Resources & Links
🔗 Premier Education Group Website

Feb 13, 2025

1 hr 14 min

Jan 21, 2025

35 min


In this episode of The Human CEO Podcast, we explore the unique and inspiring leadership journey of Danny Nelis-Rouse, Managing Director of Tug-E-Nuff.
From a corporate career in call centers to running a family business focused on dog training toys, Danny’s story is a testament to the unexpected ways our furry companions can teach us about leadership, resilience, and building meaningful connections.
Key Takeaways:
Lessons from Tiddly: How Danny’s first dog, Tiddly, profoundly influenced his understanding of customer needs and reshaped Tug-E-Nuff’s direction toward the broader dog training market.
Empowering Leadership: Insights into Danny’s leadership style, focused on education, empowerment, and creating tools for success, whether for employees, partners, or customers.
Overcoming Challenges: Navigating reputational challenges and learning to trust his instincts in making bold decisions for the business.
Community and Connection: The importance of fostering a sense of community within the Tug-E-Nuff team, its extended network of dog trainers, and their customers.
Innovation and Growth: How customer feedback and a passion for dogs continue to drive Tug-E-Nuff’s product development and global expansion.
Danny also discusses the critical balance between giving back and achieving business goals, sharing how Tug-E-Nuff invests in educational resources and personalised support to build lasting relationships. From his early days working alongside his mother in a backyard shed to managing a global brand, Danny’s journey offers inspiration for leaders who want to combine purpose, passion, and community impact.
Resources:
Visit Tug-E-Nuff: tugenuff.com
Access the Free Power of Play Course: Available on the website
Follow Tug-E-Nuff on Amazon and social media for updates
 

Jan 21, 2025

35 min

Dec 24, 2024

47 min

In this episode of The Human CEO, we welcome Mark Rampolla, co-managing partner and co-founder of Ground Force Capital, a firm specializing in growth-stage investments in health, wellness, and sustainability-focused consumer brands. Mark is also the executive chairman of ZICO, the coconut water brand he founded, sold to Coca-Cola, and later reacquired.
Mark shares his journey as a founder, investor, and leader, reflecting on the importance of values, intentionality, and adaptability in business and leadership.
Key Topics Covered:
Ground Force Capital’s Mission: Investing in growth-stage consumer-facing companies in food, beverage, and tech-enabled supply chains that promote health, wellness, and sustainability.
The Role of Values in Leadership: Mark discusses the importance of shared values in guiding decisions and behaviors, both in his investment firm and portfolio companies.
Intentionality in Business: How being intentional yet flexible has shaped Mark’s career and decisions, from launching ZICO to leading Ground Force Capital.
Leadership Challenges Today: Insights on navigating profitability, economic shifts, and operational efficiency in a complex global landscape.
Lessons in Letting Go: Mark shares how he learned to step back, empower others, and focus on his "zone of genius" to enable business growth.
Personal Reflection and Growth: The value of meditation, thought time, and self-awareness in achieving balance and clarity as a leader.
Quotes from the Episode:
"Most of my life has been about intention with non-attachment to the outcome."
"Values come to life through the behaviors we exhibit. When tough decisions arise, values guide the way."
"Activity alone doesn’t deliver results. Sometimes the best way to lead is to get out of the way."
"Great leaders know what they know, what they don’t know, and they’re intentional about surrounding themselves with the right people."
Resources Mentioned:
Books:
The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership – A guide to radical communication and conscious team building.
Letting Go by David R. Hawkins – Exploring the power of surrender in leadership and life.
Mark Rampolla’s LinkedIn: Mark Rampolla
What’s Next for Mark:
Mark shares insights into leadership challenges across Ground Force Capital’s portfolio and his ongoing mission to foster conscious, value-driven leadership.
Tune in to learn from Mark’s wealth of experience as a founder, investor, and leader navigating today’s business landscape.

Dec 24, 2024

47 min

Dec 17, 2024

30 min


Show Notes:In this episode of The Human CEO, we sit down with Kiki McDonough, founder of her eponymous fine jewellery brand, as she reflects on nearly 40 years in business. Starting in 1985 with no prior experience designing fine jewellery, Kiki shares her journey from a blank sheet of paper to building an internationally recognised brand celebrated for its coloured gemstones and timeless designs.
Key Highlights:
The Early Days: How a surprising request led Kiki to create jewellery that empowered women to buy for themselves.
Shifting Buying Behaviours: Kiki explains how women’s habits have evolved—from waiting for gifts to confidently purchasing their own jewellery.
Leadership Philosophy: While Kiki doesn’t consider herself a traditional leader, she reflects on the importance of empathy, common sense, decisiveness, and discipline in running a business.
Economic Challenges: How the current economic uncertainties are impacting SMEs and why more attention needs to be given to small businesses.
The Human Connection: From her fond memories of a childhood “toy shop” to her joy in seeing customers leave with smiles, Kiki celebrates the human element of business.
Key Influences: The role of Margaret Thatcher’s ‘can-do’ atmosphere in the 1980s and Kiki’s creative roots in a family of jewellery experts.
Memorable Moments:
Kiki’s realisation of her success: spotting someone wearing her jewellery in the crowd at Wembley Stadium.
“I’ve never put ‘back in 5 minutes’ on my door”—a testament to Kiki’s discipline and commitment to her customers.
Celebrating 40 years: Kiki shares plans to revisit designs from her archives and expand further into the UK and US markets.
Books Mentioned:
Frenchman’s Creek by Daphne du Maurier
Never by Ken Follett
Leadership Wisdom:
Kiki’s approach to leadership emphasizes empathy, optimism, and the courage to make quick decisions—even when they might not always be right. Her lessons are a powerful reminder for business leaders to remain focused, adaptable, and connected to their teams.
Listen as Kiki McDonough candidly shares her journey of resilience, creativity, and passion for bringing joy to customers—one piece of jewellery at a time.
🎧 Tune in to hear Kiki’s full story and what’s next for her business as she approaches this incredible milestone.
Website: www.kiki.co.uk
 
 

Dec 17, 2024

30 min

Dec 9, 2024

49 min

Episode Overview:In this episode, Amy sits down with Angus Nelson to explore the transformative journey of leadership, resilience, and personal growth.
Angus shares his incredible story of redemption, his path to becoming an executive coach, and the lessons he’s learned working with over 1,000 leaders across industries. With raw honesty and actionable insights, Angus discusses the power of courage over confidence, how imposter syndrome can serve as a catalyst for growth, and why audacity is essential for leaders navigating today’s challenges.
Key Topics Covered:
Angus’s Journey to Coaching:
From running an arts-driven youth center to facing personal and professional collapse.
How a moment of crisis became a turning point for healing and self-discovery.
Transitioning to leadership coaching and building a practice that serves entrepreneurs and executives.
The Courage to Lead:
Why courage, not confidence, is the key to stepping into the unknown.
Distinguishing between internal stories that hold us back and those that propel us forward.
How Angus reframes imposter syndrome as an invitation to rise to new challenges.
The Modern Leader’s Struggle:
Managing the overload of information in today’s uncertain world.
Developing mental resilience and personal power to navigate ambiguity.
Balancing empathy, authenticity, and vulnerability in leadership.
Overcoming Challenges and Building Character:
Lessons from failure: why resilience is built in hard times.
How leaders can rewrite old narratives to unlock their potential.
Practical advice for navigating transitions and finding alignment in life and work.
Books and Influences:
Wild at Heart by John Eldredge – Understanding purpose and ambition.
The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin – Foundational coaching principles.
Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell – Delegation and building effective teams.
10X Is Easier Than 2X – Expanding your thinking to achieve greater outcomes.
Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz – Shaping identity and self-belief.
Audacity and the Power of Action:
The importance of taking bold steps in life and leadership.
Lessons from Angus’s move to Portugal and the courage required to embrace uncertainty.
Why the world needs leaders who are willing to fully step into their potential.
Memorable Quotes:
“Courage, not confidence, is what takes you forward. Confidence comes from what you’ve already experienced.”
“Life prepares you for what life is preparing for you.”
“If you have an invitation to the party, you belong at the party.”
“You are way more powerful than you think you are. The world is dying for people like you to wake up.”
Connect with Angus Nelson:
Website: angusnelson.com
LinkedIn: Angus Nelson
Instagram: @angusnelson
About the Host:Amy Stephenson is a people and culture expert, passionate about helping leaders create impactful, human-centered organizations. Learn more at https://recruithuman.co.uk.
Don’t Miss Angus’s upcoming book, Confidence Comes Later: How Certainty Is Getting in Your Way, releasing next year!
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Dec 9, 2024

49 min